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Chad Rubin joins to talk off of Amazon.
- Skubana is a software offering from Chad
- Background with parents owning a Vacuum store
- Moved to Wall Street and covered internet stocks
- Took his parent’s business into direct model
- Vacuum spares and accessories is core product range
Built Software to run his business
- Moved into Home accessories and an eight figure business with one employee
- Couldn’t find a software stack to help run his business
- So built Skubana to power internet businesses
Selling off of Amazon
- About 50% of business off of Amazon on an eight figure business
- Started on Magento and then moved to eBay – was a first generation Amazon seller
- Other marketplaces are like the wild west now
- Chad’s product is very commodity – not a sexy product
- Could be doing much more business of Amazon if a sexier product
Tips to Sell off of Amazon
- Find opportunity that Amazon doesn’t play in
- Think about Casper mattress, Warby-Parker, Away Luggage, Allbirds shoes
- All of these disrupt and go super-niche, provide an experience and take customers on a journey outside of amazon
- What are categories that are ripe for disruption and can sell off of Amazon
- Vape juice can’t be sold on Amazon and a massive opportunity off of Amazon
Demand driven by Search
- Switch to new products a lot.
- Innovative products and going where the market is
- Driven by search and finding demand and no supply – the white space
- Where we see a lot of people searching for a product
- Not fishing in the same pool as others
Marketing on Amazon
- Most stuff now is just common sense
- Curating your listings
- Making them built to sell
- Focussing on their conversion rate
- Optimising 50% for Amazon search and 50% so that the customer actually buys that product on your page
- PPC sensitivity analysis that no-one else is doing
- Look at what you’re spending to what your making and the correlation
- No proof that the more you spend the better your rank
- Tested by spending as much as possible to dominate in his niche
- Hired a banker to understand the correlation between spend to make – showed a very low R co-efficient between spend to make
- A connection between what you spend and what you make – get R co-efficient to as close to 1 as possible
Lower ACoS and make money
- Started to dramatically lower ACoS – really dramatically reduced spend here
- Not in business to spend money just to get a higher BSR
- Everyone’s job in my business is to spend money to increase the bottom line
- A paradigm shift in the company
- Increasing page rank just benefited Amazon
- If all things remain constant but adjusting the ACoS what gives the most amount of money with the products that we have with the spend that we have
- Made the mistake of focussing on increasing rank rather than making profit
- Have a Tier 1 SKU, Tier 2 SKU and Tier 3 SKU – then calculated the proper ACoS for the SKU Tiers, not all SKUs are the same ACoS
Off of Amazon Marketing
- Don’t do a lot of social Media as in a commodity space
- On every channel off Amazon – about 18-20 channels (Jet, Walmart, eBay, Groupon, Overstock, Home Depot…)
- Like playing Monopoly – you need to be on every square on the Board to win – same with off of Amazon selling
- This means you show up in all Google spaces via Jet, Walmart, etc. via their Google PLAs
Lots of SEO work
- Own website lots of PLAs and SEO work
- Lot of content and backlinks
- Links and Rich content are key
- Vacuum parts hard for SEO and engaging content
- Software SEO v’s Local SEO v’s eCommerce SEO for vacuums – very different approaches
- eCommerce – Chad’s niche is super hard – nobody cares about it
- Small DIY blogs and really compelling content – aim is to get a backlink
- Use guest posts, give discounts to their community for the products
Managing everything
- Had one person – 30 people in the eCommerce Business – and was a small town to find skills in
- Going remote opened up skills to tackle the business weaknesses
- Finding people and using Basecamp made a huge difference
- Remote culture is built through Basecamp
- Skubana side – everyone is in New York and 28 people
Time Management
- Very efficient in time management
- Chad’s wife is an entrepreneur and runs a Yoga firm
- Work is integrated into their lives – holiday, etc it’s just part of life
- Monday is listening day – standup meetings
- Structure the day with Sun and Moon
- Morning is best for energy and email is not a good use of energy in the morning
- Have Lunch and coffee
- Late afternoon when things die down can go to email and clear it (VAs draft emails through the day in his Inbox ready for review)
- Wall Street taught how to work very long hours without moving 7am to 2am for 3 years
- Having Analytics to analyse business and run a P&L
Other Marketplace
- Why would you go off of Amazon – only the strongest survive on Amazon
- A Gateway drug – easy to get started and super hard to ever leave
- Would you invest in a stock with one customer – too much risk, need to diversify your risk level
- Chad has been suspended on Amazon five times – and it hurt
- After tasting the bottom of the barrel, Chad diversified through marketplaces and shopping carts
- How do you manage it – you need a system in place to run and automate your business
- The system you pick determines how much success you can get in your business
- Skubana is multi-channel and covers off of Amazon
- McDonalds in UK versus New Jersey will be systemised nad consistent across the World
- Automate the channels as you expand with 1 click integrations
- Do research on where your customers that buy are spending their time
- Chad’s customers spend their time on Walmart, eBay, Google, Amazon and Home Depot
- Smart luggage would target travellers on Facebook and Instagram or Twitter luggage complainers – catch eyeballs and wallet share of those
- How do you win if you’re doing the same as everyone else – there’s no competitive advantage
Life Time Value of Customer
- Think about the LTV – Life Time Value of the client
- How will you dip into their wallet again for a 2buy or 3buy
- Cost of customer acquisition is key
- Think about long term wealth versus short term income
- Go to the dark corners where nobody else goes – be contrary
Going off of Amazon
- Surround yourself in this circle of Amazon – Understand that there is so much life outside of Amazon
- Loads of Huge brands outside of Amazon selling thousands and thousands of products
- If you ‘re going to sell off of Amazon, be prepared and have the budget to build that traffic
- Off of Amazon conversion rates are 1% not 15% – it takes time to build the traffic to get that 1 in 100 off of Amazon
- Focus on an innovative product that solves a problem – the only way to go
- Hit the ground running and make mistakes – learn from the school of life
- You’re not growing unless you’re failing – you learn from people’s failures as well as your own
Contact
- skubana.com
- chad@skubana.com
- Cheaper, Easier, Direct book
- Event in New York October – skubana.com/accelerate