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Michael Michelini of the global from Asia podcast talks to us about his Amazon Product Failure.
Mike has been in China 10 years doing mobile apps, sourcing and podcasting for 4 years. He was on eBay in 2004, 2007 moved to China to source products for his business.
Mike has now held 3 x Cross Border summits to develop cross-border ecommerce. Started up a new FBA company and podcasting the journey of his new product to everyone.
This Amazon Product Failure
- It was a Business to Business product scenario from 2008 in China
- Product was folding beer-pong tables
- Had a big container order for this product.
- Was a simple modification on an existing product but it turned out to be more complex than he thought.
What convinced you this product was a winner?
- Was drop shipping these tables in the USA already
- Was good at SEO and ranking on Google
- Could feel the wave coming
- Fraternities were buying them, bars were buying them it was a real boom coming
How much time and money did you lose?
- About USD$15,000 lost
- Time was years off his life 🙂
- Days of lost sleep
- Danny would rather lose money than time, can make money but can’t make time
- Mike lost a few months of time in this failure
- Invested a lot, advantage of being in China was that he could go to the factory himself but a lot of wasted time
- Although you’re working on fixing it, it’s mid time
Where did it all go wrong?
- The final sample was the fault
- Found these tables on Alibaba that were folding tables for painters
- Thought it would be great for beer-pong and put our labels on top of it
- We got some samples of the current painters folding table
- Got a logo sticker put on it and it looked good
- We didn’t want to ship this whole bulky product across the water to the US
- So told the agent over there to just put the logo sticker on it and buy a bunch of them
- Problem was we didn’t accept the final sample
- The stickers that went on the tables did not withstand heat n the summer
- Buyers would put the table in their car boots to go to parties in the Summer
- The inside of the car would get super hot
- And the glue would melt and the label would bubble up
- The label wouldn’t stick back down and then cracked
- Returns started going to the stores
- The Stores came to us and said the returns were going up and up and up
Fundamental Flaw on the Amazon Product Failure was
- Nobody tested the product for HEAT or HEAT RESISTANCE in the boot of a car
- The Factory didn’t seem to care because we didn’t say in the inspection report to test for it
- We didn’t really qualify the final product and we didn’t test for heat
- This was 2008 and at the very beginning of the adventure
- Probably lack of knowledge and naiivity rather than sloppy practice
- We made a decent order, was one of the biggest orders
Didn’t quite turn into a Returns Meltdown
- Received the email from the Buyer saying – we’ve got a BIG *”%& problem
- Everyone got refunded in the end thankfully
- It didn’t get to a big recall as returns were not high enough
- Mike was checking the weather forecasts in Orlando
- If the returns got to a high enough threshold he would have been liable to ship them all back from the Buyer
- Luckily for Mike returns didn’t get that high
What did you learn from this?
- It was end of the week in China in a 7-11 drinking beer outside with some friends
- He was a asking “What am i going to do” – it could have been upto USD$40k impact
- His friends were laughing at him there drinking a beer and moaning
- A woman in a suit came up and gave him a name card and offered him a job as an English teacher for high-net worth Family’s children
- He hated the idea of being an over-paid English teacher and so had to work a way out of it
People are not infallible
- People are not infallible and they will make mistakes
- How you recover is what is testament to Mike’s grit and determination
- Mike stayed on top of it and spent a couple of days at the factory but they didn’t seem to care
What happened at the Factory?
- Although Mike was in China, he still had to fly to the factory
- He stayed in a crummy hotel next to the factory
- Chinese workers don’t show any emotion in their reactions to problems or successes
- Mike is across the desk from the Factory Manager and asking what can be done, he just said it wasn’t specified and wasn’t his problem
Fixing it
- Mike realised he didn’t have the skills/ experience in this area, so he got another 3rd party involved on the next one
- He came out of this massive failure with a ‘re-order’ from the BUYER – gave him a credit that was a cost to Mike but kept the relationship.
- Michael totally turned it around and got another order from the buyer
- He now has a professional testing company and sourcing business to help
Choose your strengths
- Pull to your strengths and use others with their skills to do what they are good at
- Not so easy to do when you’re starting out with low budget
- But being able to do this saves a lot of time and problems
- De-risks the potential impact of your Amazon Product Failure even though it costs you a little margin
The End Result
- Turned the corner and got a re-order and had no margin for a while
- Mike got out of the sourcing business at this time
- He had a partner take over the business and it continued
- Danny has dumped products and stopped the line
- Mike turned the corner on his negative situation into a positive
Relationship and Using Agents
- For Mike it’s too difficult when things go wrong (through no-one’s fault) to have those face-to-face discussions
- Using a sourcing agent and inspection company avoids all of this
- Danny is always amazed at newbies who Kamakazi buy stock and ship it straight in with no inspections
What are your 3 main metrics when selecting a new product
- Like to have some interest in the product
- Have to like it enough for Mike to want to write about it
- Still look at the SEO and Google competitors and websites
- Do the JungleScout and try to be data-driven
- Mike tries to hit the middle – good on quality and more affordable (not cheapest or most expensive)
One piece of advice
- You can’t rush sourcing from China – don’t be in such a rush
- If you want to test and go fast stick to your own country – domestic sourcing
Contact Mike
- GlobalfromAsia.com
- Podcast Global from Asia on itunes
- crossbordersummit.com
- 19th-21st April 2018, Shenzen China