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Larry joins but is incognito for this episode on Amazon (Own Brand) Selling a copycat version of his own product on his listing but of inferior packaging, quality and fulfilment turnaround
- Amazon selling on Larry’s listing but the product being sold is not Larry’s even-though it’s an Amazon brand
- In Oct the node changed on Larry’s listing
- A couple of days later the Title changed and it had mis-spellings and had been shortened dramatically (Assuming the guys who supplied to Amazon did this)
- Two days after that Larry lost the buy box and price dropped from $20 to $16 and it was being sold by Amazon – Amazon were selling a copycat version of Larry’s product
- Dropped the price 1p below to re-gain the by box and has had the box 98% of the time since
- Getting sales but not getting the same number or to the profit margins he’s had before
Advised by Amazon to Test Buy an Amazon Product!
- The same day Larry opened a ticket
- He told Amazon someone was selling on his brand and wanted them to separate the two sellers
- They advised Larry to raise a test buy on the product of an Amazon sold product that is meant to be Larry’s own product!
- No-one has this product except Larry – he doesn’t sell to anyone else
- Larry did a test buy – marked as Prime – but took 4 days to supply – someone is selling a copycat of Larry’s product
Test Buy Arrives
- It arrived, was not in an Amazon box and the label said it was from Lexington Kentucky
- The product was not Larry’s it was a similar product
- Has a slightly different footprint, the box was dusty and beat-up
- The packaging had no warnings, etc and a bad representation of Larry’s brand
- Had no bar-code, brand name, part number on it
- Amazon were selling a copycat version of Larry’s product
Seller-Evaluation@amazon.com
- He took photos and sent in to Amazon to show this was clearly not Larry’s product
- After a few days of not hearing anything, someone in Amazon merged Larry’s case with his previous case that was closed that upset Larry
- He called back in and got his calls opened back up and escalated
- 5 days later – email come from seller-evaluation@amazon.com
- Thanked Larry for raising a ticket on products that do not match the listing page
- No agreement to share the outcome of the investigation
- Had a new internal case number attached to it
Investigating their UPC
- Amazon dropped off the listing the next day
- Remained off the listing for 5 days
- Amazon jumped back on the listing again
- Larry did another test-buy this time
- Did some investigation UPCs and found a company in San-Diego listing that part number through their own website
- Found the first tracking number and saw that it originated not from Lexington but from San-Diego (DBTC)
Amazon created a new ASIN
- The second test order arrived
- This one had the same 5 day delivery time and the tracking number came from San-Diego, so likely the same place
- Took additional photos and sent in to Amazon
- Duplicated with the previous case
- After a few days Larry had seen no traction
- Called Amazon again to ask them to ‘split’ this company off of his listing
- Amazon decide to create a new ASIN for Larry’s product!!
- There was 90 mins where Larry was not listed at all
- Larry called back in and got it back on the listing straight away
Amazon Selling a CopyCat Product? – Next Step
- Larry is currently still waiting for the 2nd case to be resolved
- Look a little deeper into Larry’s direct competitors and saw Amazon was all over their listings too
- Did test buys of their products
- Received the 1st and it was the same product that Larry’s got for his fake product
- The second test-buy came in a re-used Amazon box and inside was the product box which was an Amazon box
- Both of those vendors had Amazon on their listing offering semi-identical products
- All of the test-buy orders are identical products but packaged differently
- A form of hi-jacking that appears to be all under the Amazon brand using the same product across the listings
Amazon Sold 2 increase stock by 1
- 5 days ago Amazon had the buy-box and had only 11 left in-stock
- Decide to roll with it to see what happens if they sold-out
- After 8 hours Larry dropped his price a penny and they had 5 left and Larry regained the buy-box
- Odd was that the number available on this Amazon company selling his product – they would sell 2 increase by 1, sell 2 increase by 1…
Where now with Amazon
- Decided to wait and see through black Friday
- Didn’t want to rock the boat
- Will probably go and explore an intellectual property claim with Amazon – in a way that avoids suspension
- Larry’s key period for sales is in Jan/Feb
- This will be Larry’s next big Gamble after Christmas
Contact
- larry@bditco.com – happy to hear about how to approach this or new ideas